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Accounts of border agents allegedly mistreating, punishing, even abusing kids at an overcrowded facility in yuma, arizona. one 15-year-old girl alleges she was sexually assaulted. jacob soboroff broke this story for nbc and he's been at front of this story from the start. jacob, tell us what you found. >> it's pretty horrific. we've heard all these reports of what was going on in texas and for the first time we've heard what happened inside an arizona border patrol station. many of the issues we heard about in texas, unsanitary conditions, extreme overcrowding, children forced to sleep outside...

Reporters who broke this story, jacob soboroff. jacob, thank you for your time tonight. i appreciate you taking time. >> rachel, thanks. and thanks to you and your team for collaborating with us on this. >> yeah, i understand this originated with essentially a tip from a viewer, somebody alerting us to the existence of these -- of these incident reports. let me just ask you about your reporting process a little bit and how you were able to verify what these were what they appear to be. >> these significant incident reports, rachel, are basically taken down by every single case manager at healt...

Right away, and they have support services so if they have a mental health issue or they have to go back and get their ged or some other issue, they have services around them. using that basic model, we drove veteran homelessness down 47% between 2010 and 2016. so we have seen this can happen, what it takes. >> how did you do that? you're giving a head nod to what some folks know and don't know. but you know well. some say every night in america, one out of three of those homelessness are veterans. >> that's right. it is one of the most shameful things about what happens in our country. this w...

Migrants pose no threat or danger to the united states. we know from past history that when we connect them with case managers in a community, they have a 99% chance of meeting their court dates and their appointments with i.c.e., and it costs us a tenth of what we pay to keep them in detention and in custody. >> so in other words, catch and release is something you support? >> no, i wouldn't call it catch and release. identical it helping those who are seeking asylum in this country to follow our laws. >> so, david, do you agree with o'rourke? is that the best option to just basically let the...

They have lied about being parents. >> it's, it's here the question. mr. secretary. if these kids are -- so happy right now they're playing and, getting an education, and they're being treated with love, why are you turning away members of congress, the news media, from visiting these facilities to let the world see what's going on? because you know the, the impression that the entire world is seeing of the united states right now. people all over the world are wondering what's going on? >> oh, come on, wolf. you know media and members of congress. over 60 members of congress tour facilities. ...