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That we have that the president is increasingly turning to this power of the pardon. john? >> jeremy, appreciate it. if you get the paperwork, let us know. let's bring it back in the room. we talked about this case is different. alice marie johnson, drug charges, not a political figure. interesting, you talked about the resistance from john kelly and how it seemed tone deaf politically. i don't know if compromise is the right word, but is this a compromise on the president's pard that it's commutation but not a pardon? it's a get out of jail card but not wipe it away. >> it looks this way, but...

Party. we're moving in another direction. frankly, many of the people in the republican base, say what they are, will struggling right now in this economy. they don't want more foreign wars. and dick cheney said many real men go to tehran for many years. what are the messages of 9/11? you don't lie to the public about a war. no dictator does that. it's too risky. >> the lessons of dick cheney is four or five deferments and then become a hawk. >> what you're finding is that there's a shift in the republican party now where the base is saying, that's not us anymore. and rand paul is definitely s...

Frankly, many of the people in the republican base, say what they are, will struggling right now in this economy. they don't want more foreign wars. and dick cheney said many real men go to tehran for many years. what are the messages of 9/11? you don't lie to the public about a war. no dictator does that. it's too risky. >> the lessons of dick cheney is four or five deferments and then become a hawk. >> what you're finding is that there's a shift in the republican party now where the base is saying, that's not us anymore. and rand paul is definitely speaking to them at this moment, and i thin...