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Show is the waterfall cascading of lies. it is unbelievable how often the white house has denied what we now know to be true, that the president has not only contemplated but tried to act on it. do you this all these aides didn't know or just lied? >> i think they just lied. i think it's surprising they lied for so long. this story came out, apparently it happened seven months ago, june, a month after robert mueller, special prosecutor, was hired. i think the buck stops with the president of the united states. clearly donald trump is not acting like an innocent person. he is abusing his power ...

President as a challenging client. remind our viewers, given all we know about the people who have gone before him, the people who have already talked to mueller, just how detailed a case mueller is going to sit down with, just how detailed a stack of questions are going to come at this client? >> mueller has talked to multiple people and a lot of conversations that the president would get asked about. so he's got all kinds of facts against which he can check the president's testimony. the thing to remember about this president is he's an unreliable narrator about his own activities and the fa...

Problem. >> mika, jack may be a master of understatement referring to the president as a challenging client. remind our viewers, given all we know about the people who have gone before him, the people who have already talked to mueller, just how detailed a case mueller is going to sit down with, just how detailed a stack of questions are going to come at this client? >> mueller has talked to multiple people and a lot of conversations that the president would get asked about. so he's got all kinds of facts against which he can check the president's testimony. the thing to remember about this pr...

Thinks very strongly and feels very strongly about what is right and wants to tell his story and tell it with vigor. there is always a danger, though, whether sworn or unsworn, that if the prosecutors and agents believe someone else and believes their story more forcefully that that could be a legal as well as a political problem. >> mika, jack may be a master of understatement referring to the president as a challenging client. remind our viewers, given all we know about the people who have gone before him, the people who have already talked to mueller, just how detailed a case mueller is goi...

Accept only written responses. mueller's team will say we want to question you. then the president and his attorneys will have to make a decision. they can say for sure you can question me and let's talk about the ground rules or the president can say pound sand, in which case mueller will issue a dprand jury subpoena. then the president will decide whether or not, a, he goes to the grand jury and testifies. almost certainly not. b, he invokes his fifth amendment privilege against self incriminati incrimination, which doesn't sound quite as crazy as it did when people first started talking abo...