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Democracy which is usually the province of the local school district bureaucracy and the unions who, of course, have intense interest in school policy. here you're seeing parents suddenly get involved. that sounds like grass roots democracy going ahead. it's kind of what we want, isn't it? >> well, i would definitely agree. i mean, i think that for the past few months you saw a lot of republican legislatures in various states passing laws prohibiting the teaching of critical race theory in classrooms. and i think a lot of skeptics pointed out that, you know, these schools are very institutiona...

We know that jared kushner set himself up as the so-called back channel with russia and other countries during the transition. none of this appeared on his form. submitted it four times, and his attorney at the time said to us it was properly submitted, reviewed by career officials, and it was a normal process. today he kind of had to say wait a minute. a spokesman said at the time we relied on the white house basically, and they told us it was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone, and they said that was conveyed to you guys in the media at the time. new stories, if accu...

Sanders has been in a number of times. >> exactly. >> saying something only to later not saying it quite so succinctly at that. >> right. >> the fact that don mcgahn and general kelly felt moved to write this down and write about and certainly don mcgahn's case objections, it tells you something. >> i think that's one of the more significant parts of the story. it is not as if there were some disgruntled career officials who wanted to be perhaps more conservative and say oh, i see some issue here is. you know, being more persnickety perhaps than mcgahn and kelly. but the fact that trump's hand...