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>> i didn't say that. i will tell you i didn't say that. >> did he ask you to pledge his -- >> there would be nothing wrong if i did say it according to everybody i read today. >> i think looking into me and the campaign, look, i have nothing to do -- this was set up by the democrats. there is no collusion between me and my campaign and the russians. >> i can tell you speaking for myself, i own nothing in russia. i have no loans in russia. i don't have any deals in russia. >> everything that i have done is 100% proper. that's what i do, i do things proper. >> let's bring in tonight' panel, rum...

Or not? >> i would say that i would give that a try. >> you would give it a try. >> then if mueller said -- >> sorry buddy. >> you sure you want it that way? you're not going to like it if we do it once. >> you think it would be -- >> i think that mueller would have the leverage to say, i reserve the right to come back and ask more questions, either about the same subject or another subject. if they say no, you get a pr war, but i think it's probably a war that mueller wins. obviously, he can't be dragging the president up there and wasting his time over and over again without a good reason, b...

Is. >> i would submit to you, though, that bill clinton and donald trump are completely different in terms of going into a deposition. who would you rather take in as a client, bill clinton or a pathological liar? >> we had every parallel in this case to the clinton case except we haven't had trump get up there and say i didn't have treasonous relationships with that country. >> actually, he did say that. the russians, i have no this in russia, no that in russia, oh, by the way, can you find the e-mails? >> the other parallel we could have, it is true this is a more serious underlying accusati...

Was going to be collusion or conspiracy. but that still doesn't make it easy for trump to handle that question. what did you mean, exactly, when you invited the russians. that's a very hard question for him to answer, which is why i think any lawyer representing him would look upon the prospect of his testimony as a nightmare but it's a nightmare they know is coming sooner or later. >> as you said, mueller will decide whether he wants to interview the president or not. it's likely he's going to want to. and if you look at the scope of his investigation, there's sort of two that we assume he wa...

You're already on the record saying all kinds of things that look pretty bad to a prosecutor. >> what do those statements mean? i mean, when he -- he has said i was joking when i say, hey, russia, if you can find her e-mails, yet here he is in an investigation. is it prosecutorial discretion that makes the decisions about whether those statements are relevant or not? who decides whether his statements some of which we have played, are part of the investigation? >> well, initially, mueller does. now, not many people think he could just be indicted based on the public record so far, right? so th...