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Tacopina believes she should have reacted some other way. it does feel like the evidence is getting stronger for e. jean carroll, as the case progresses. >> that is a chilling, and great point. we don't say, how come you didn't scream when you are getting mugged, but, we do in sexual assault. peter, you cannot leave without giving us some update on the debt ceiling. you know that the president has invited key members of congress to sit down on tuesday, but june 1st is around the corner, and that is when treasury secretary janet yellen says that we will run out of money. any movement happening ...

This case progresses. if there's classified information, michael sussmann's attorneys would need special clearance to view it. susman was indicted a week ago today. durham says susman went to the fbi and linked trump and the russians. he did see as a citizen, not for the clinton campaign. the fact that he worked at the department of justice at the same time michael sussmann did in the 1990s. this happened sometimes a lot in the legal community. people tend to know each other. another interesting connection, martha, the judge happens to be married to an attorney that represented lisa page there...

Memories? >> yeah, it brought back the last time i saw him, which was right there at the massage table. and it just started making me feel uneasy, nervous. >> we get to look him in the face today and see him, you know, in handcuffs. it was just nice to be able to share it with somebody. look at you and say, okay, today's our day just to hear that they're standing up for the victims, you know what i mean? it's just like so overwhelmingly -- it's past due. >> as this case progresses, katie, the likelihood that we hear from more accusers? >> well, so as you heard from that presser that was yester...

People involved in the case, how he communicates to jeff sessions over at the attorney general, and so i don't think we can look at these tweets and sort of write them off or shrug off that, oh, this is just the president tapping it out on his phone. it's going to be important as this case progresses. >> a critical piece of it is that mueller has all the documentation too. we presume he has texts, e-mails, meeting schedules, correspondence back and forth, which is important because the key players involved keep changing their stories publicly. if you go back and look at this, july 8th, the tru...

Going to get them anywhere to say -- >> even if he worked for a hot minute on the mueller investigation. >> you know, fbi agents like the rest of us are allowed to have personal views. what's ironic to me, think back to what the gop were saying when trump was the candidate. there were so many people saying, he's the worst thing ever, he cannot be the president, we must stop this. and all of a sudden he's the president and everyone says okay. >> it wasn't emblematic of the entire populous of the people who voted, therefore -- >> people are entitled to have their views. >> i got it. jennifer, th...