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People think that in a two hour meeting, it will be way too long or i think it was scheduled for a half hour. half hour each side will get seven and a half minutes which is totally unrealistic. >> because there was no one else as far as we know, no recordings in the meeting between putin and trump, is it fair in your view that an interpreter, translater would be put in a position of having to convey the content of that meeting after the fact? >> i'm not sure what you mean having to convey. in other words the way it worked in my case and probably in this case as well i can only assume is after ...

>> it seems like we may be on track. thank you both for your time today, i appreciate it. president trump's official demand of the justice department has reignited the debate on that deputy's independence. as the chairman of the human rights foundation put it, quote, trump is more outraged about the fbi investigating russian interference in his kpeen and the election than he is about the interference, personal interest over national security. joining me now is the man behind that kmantary, gary casse better ov, a long time putin critic and author of deep thinking. he has been participating i...

Investigation. president trump meanwhile saying there was absolutely no collusion here, calling the inquiry a, quote, democratic hoax, a claim backed by president vladimir putin who this week dismissed talk of election meddling as spy mania. i want to bring in our panel, ambassador mcfaul, former ambassador to federation and karen desoto, nbc legal analyst to talk about this. ambassador, i'd like to begin with you. president trump and his russian counterpart shared a fn call we know in which the president changed putin for glowing remarks regarding u.s. economy. i want to get your reaction to ...

And then they added a line about north korea. that's good. the president should be talking to vladimir putin about north korea but not just calling them up to say, thank you for praising me on national television in russia. >> if there's in upside to that part of the conversation, what is the potential downside, potential threat to national security, if there's any. >> well, it just goes back to something i've said for years now, because candidate trump said this as well. i think, i fear the president confuses good personal relations with the leader of a country, in this case putin, with ameri...

Remind you of this, is because donald trump himself was casting doubt before the election on whether he was going to accept the result of it. that's why all the questions came his way. i'm not sitting here as a democrat, i'm not sitting here as a republican, i'm not even sitting here as an independent, i'm sitting here as an american who is so frustrated by the idea that people are suiting up in their usual jerseys on this issue, respectfully including you, and instead of uniting against a common enemy in this case putin and russia and being pissed at the idea that he put his thumb on the scal...