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It's very simple. now, if you look at fdr, because i watched jeffrey lord this morning and i thought he was fantastic, by the way. if you look at him, the presidential proclamations, 25, 25, 26 and 25, 27, it was very -- that was very, very stringent. very, very stringent. and i thought jeffrey lord did a fantastic job explaining it this morning on your show. >> okay. here's my question to you. i heard jeffrey lord, we're always happy to have him on the show, he makes your case well, no question about that. >> he makes his own case well, in all fairness. >> and he certainly owns it. >> to be h...

Here. >> the jurors are going to decide what constitutes real threat. yes, there may have been a fight, but we're seeing that being substantiated by the eyewitness account, whether it be audible or from john good who saw part of that struggle, but then the jury it seems is going to be in a place of deciding wait a minute, a fight, how does it go from you know, a brawl, a fight to i think i'm about to lose my life and so i'm pulling out a gun or a gun is fired and someone is killed. isn't that really at the core here, avery? >> yeah. i mean, i can't imagine that judge deborah nelson, who i thin...

Negative coverage that this is going to see. and you know, and again, like you pointed out, we're not sure what donald trump is going to say tomorrow. i'm sure the romney campaign is sort of busily trying to negotiate that right now. so it is sort of an odd play by the romney campaign. >> erin, let me ask you about the poll of veterans on this memorial day. they make up 13% of the voting population. here's the fascinating number behind these gallup poll numbers that if you look at the overall race, obama and romney are tied overall, 46% among all registered voters and men give romney an eight-...