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We won't find out until the court render its opinion. >> in your personal view, what is the best case scenario right now? >> if you believe that women should be full participants in our society and have the right to make decisions about their own bodies, and i certainly ascribe to both of those views, then this was not a good argument. i mean, it's a little bit dangerous to predict the outcome of a case based on argument. typically you will hear people like me decline to do that because we believe the justices will try issues and arguments on for size. and sometimes the opinion they issue does...

From exercising the constitutional right merely because of the number of people in the category and that's just not how constitutional rights work. a state would never say that it could ban religious services on a wednesday evening, for example, simply because most people could attend religious services on another night of the week. >> i wanted to -- that's helpful, i think. i want to make sure i understand what you're telling me. that if the court were to, in this case, step past viability and apply undue burden, the undue burden test to regulations prior to viability, you would agree with th...

>> there were two fundamental things going on in the case today. one was this is about personal liberty, about constitutional liberty about women in america. and on the merits of the case, that's what it's about. but the second piece going on that we heard articulated by the justices in their questioning is this issue of the court's prec precedent. that pertains to the fact of is the court going to overturn these 50 years of history going back to roe in addition to the past almost 30 years when that case was reaffirmed in the casey case. >> and what is fascinating about it is that, you know, e...

Ante to get involved. >> katie, thank you for starting us off. tim and neil, stick around. when we come back, we'll ask neil what he heard in today's oral arguments at the united states supreme court and whether a ruling to strike down roe versus wade in the mississippi case would open a pandora's box. plus, tragic news from michigan where the death toll in yesterday's school shooting has risen to four and on capitol hill, passionate calls for republicans to stop protecting gun manufacturers and put our kids safety first. and there's a ton of questions about omicron now confirmed to be in cali...

Thing to carry a pregnancy to term -- it was really disturbing to hear how they talked about it. it is still the case that women in this country face tremendous barriers when parenting. and it is still the case that our constitution for good reason has said that to be equal in this country, to be -- to have access to abortion, they are bound up together. so the only thing that has actually meaningfully changed is the composition of the court. and people will not forget that. >> if a teama, god's greatest, thanks for starting us off today and being part of our coverage. when we come back, vid...