that play out in our justice system now? yeah. well, a, good to be back. missed you, buddy. it s one of those situations where we are prejudged all the time. we don t get the benefit of the doubt that you re just simply jogging in a nice neighborhood. you know, you re casing it. we don t get the benefit of the doubt that we re just shopping and we re not going to shoplift or that we re lawfully carrying as i do as a second amendment advocate but you know, there may be something wrong. kyle rittenhouse clearly got that benefit of the doubt. and that s the dichotomy that we see playing out in these trials. as you know, i ve been there in these cases. when i had walter scott, there was an air that we were fighting to prove he wasn t guilty, not that the cops were guilty. same thing with george floyd. when i was there in court every day. we were fighting to prove george floyd wasn t guilty of his own death. same thing with ahmaud arbery. but with rittenhouse we see
one had been released since 1985. mr. aziz. the other, mr. islam, was let go in 1987 but since passed in 2009. but when we think about the unequal justice with kyle rittenhouse, just the grace that kyle rittenhouse received from the police in kenosha in contrast to ahmaud arbery in georgia is really remarkable. chris, you make the point that black people never get the benefit of the doubt in america. talk to me about what you mean about that, and how do you see that play out in our justice system now? yeah. well, a, good to be back, man. missed you, buddy. you as well. it s one of those situations where we are pre-judged all the time. we don t get the benefit of the doubt that you re just simply jogging in a nice neighborhood. you know, you re casing it. we don t get the benefit of the doubt that we re just shopping
that saved dismem will keep them together. how long do they need to be monitored, medically? years? i am very cautious. i would monitor them for several months at the very least. and years for the reasons we are talking about, lock-term effects from the vapors, long-term effects of mrks ptsd. that can take several months to happen. you don t feel t. you are numb when you come out. you don t see any of it in their faces. but we may see it down the line. the respiratory and the neurological deficits strike me as the most likely. we have been talking about that for years with the world trade center. you may see it here. it s not the same thing because nothing is burning. but there is a lot of toxic vapors. and methane is number 1. and i think we have all experienced hardship in our life, and we have all had things that take years to get over. i can t imagine what it s like to go through what they went through? absolutely. by the way, talking about methanes, the first sign of m
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