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We have these detention centers which are clearly inadequate and in fact far worse for treating them, for caring for them. there's no good process for getting people in and out of those facilities. and everybody is now just yelling at each other, blaming everyone else. meanwhile people are sitting there in these dire conditions. it's a terrible failure. and what we've been trying to get at from the white house but also from the presidential candidates is what will they do? what is the right way to handle this situation? is it a crisis, is it a challenge, is it humanitarian? what is it? let's g...

National security adviser and the secretary of state, why let it happen? >> i think that's the important point. we have seen repeatedly over the last two and a half years aspects of the behavior from advisers getting ahead of what the president either wants or is aware of or is clued into. the president puts out a warning himself that this is not where i am. he felt the need to make it clear publicly that this is not something he's completely embracing. >> the president has spent the better part of two years, i guess, casting aspersions on the intel community and raising doubts about whether o...

He didn't seem to take a side. casting aspersions on another member in the committee is against the rules. that could have been the fight. he managed today get her to say no, i'm not directly calling him a racist so we wouldn't have the rules fight. she did apologize and has since apologized. but it's curious to me why meadows would have gone down this road. i mean, you'd think he would know better -- >> given that, you know, 2012 campaign incident and that resurfaced as a result of this. i want to remind people what meadows had to say about barack obama. >> i see it as if we do our job from a...

When you feel passionately about something and someone comes over to your side, you should celebrate that and thank them. holding grudges or pointing fingers, is probably the wrong approach. there air lot of people who support gay marriage in this country who had a different upbringing. she wasn't necessarily casting aspersions at her family but saying i have come to a different place. it is important to that end not to malign people that believe differently, people that believe in a traditional definition of marriage, as bigots or hateful people, which is grossly unfair to the vast majority o...

Mean that more things are coming soon, possibly an indictment. >> you want to check every word, cross over "t," to make sure an "is" wasn't an "isn't." stone's response said this has devolved in gotcha games, perjury traps and process crimes. i think people can see the political motivation behind this. what's your reaction far? >> i think mueller is in for a publ public relations battle with roger stone. stone likes to mix it up, wants to fight, is going to be throwing punches above and below the belt. it makes the people and congress who have been casting aspersions against him and is used to...