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Led us into there said it didn't matter there was no wmd. explain that. >> i think it's a very good question. >> it sure is. >> i think casting aspersions on the cia and british intelligence -- >> i'm casting aspersions. >> excuse me, chris. i let you finish. i let you finish. i let you finish. i know the directors of both the cia and british intelligence. i knew them at the time. they were both absolutely convinced, based on the information they had, that wmd existed and they would say so to this day. having said all of that, it turned out to be wrong. and yes, i absolutely support ta we need...

Prosecuted it didn't die there, just led it in there said it didn't matter there was no wmd. explain that. >> i think first of all, it's a very good question. >> it sure is. >> you're casting aspersions upon the cia and british intelligence -- >> i'm casting aspersions? >> excuse me, chris. i let you finish. i know the directors of both the cia and british intelligence. i knew them at the time. they were both absolutely convinced, based on the information they had, that is wmd existed, and they would say so to this day. having said all of that, it turned out to be wrong. and yes, i absolutely ...

Reform. let's not try to insult people. >> there was no insult intended, congressman. >> i think there was. >> i appreciate, congressman, that you were an immigration lawyer for 15 years. you of all people should know that there is a massive problem in this country. >> there is. >> and there is not an easy way to solve it. >> it's not my party. it's your party that stood in the way of solving it when president bush wanted to resolve it. if we want to cast a perfectisp back and forth all day. >> president obama voted for amendments that killed the immigration reform act in the senate. let's tal...

Left and right. i'm sorry. >> the humility caucus has few members. >> let's talk about the transition we're looking at. i have grown up with the memory, the historic memory, i was not aware at the time, though my mom when i came home was watching the mccarthy hearings. i think she was rooting for mccarthy, actually. but joe mccarthy seems to have been reincarnated in ted cruz. they even look alike. that's not really fair to say that. but they do. a certain aspect. a nastiness. an edge. i see rand paul's replacing his father on the hard right. and this mike lee further right than bob bennett in...

The mccarthy hearings. i think she was rooting for mccarthy, actually. but joe mccarthy seems to have been reincarnated in ted cruz. they even look alike. that's not really fair to say that. but they do. a certain aspect. a nastiness. an edge. i see rand paul's replacing his father on the hard right. and this mike lee further right than bob bennett in utah. further right that orrin hatch. seems like almost like some sort of insect farm where the bigger, badder insects are replacing the little ones. >> there's a whole lot of turnover in a lot of places. some of them are just as goofy characters...