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Palin or michele bachmann or jim demint has the chops to look at the financial crisis we're in, jobs, you know, what's going on in foreign policy, and that they are the ones that can fix it. they got elected on an emotional rage. and they have to back out, i think. >> you mean they really are humble? >> no. i think they really -- >> humble. >> yeah, humble. >> i never would have thought of it that way. >> i think they realize they don't have the skill set. >> i know. to recognize it yourself. a lot of people in congress don't recognize it. left and right. i'm sorry. >> the humility caucus has ...

Left and right. i'm sorry. >> the humility caucus has few members. >> let's talk about the transition we're looking at. i have grown up with the memory, the historic memory, i was not aware at the time, though my mom when i came home was watching the mccarthy hearings. i think she was rooting for mccarthy, actually. but joe mccarthy seems to have been reincarnated in ted cruz. they even look alike. that's not really fair to say that. but they do. a certain aspect. a nastiness. an edge. i see rand paul's replacing his father on the hard right. and this mike lee further right than bob bennett in...

More brave and patriotic in looking at something when it's really hard and quitting. because that's what they all did. we're in a really hard time. but i think they look at their own, like, intellectual heft and realize they don't have the chops. so they got to get out. you can't tell me that a sarah palin or michele bachmann or jim demint has the chops to look at the financial crisis we're in, jobs, you know, what's going on in foreign policy, and that they are the ones that can fix it. they got elected on an emotional rage. and they have to back out, i think. >> you mean they really are humb...