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Chasing the secretary around the desk. i'm not saying that's okay. that's how -- that's -- that's how i -- that's how i more or less -- everything i heard was more or less in that category and as his friend, i wish i had been more of a friend and -- there was never any talk of rape or anything like that and like the reason i didn't was because that's a real hard conversation to have because i felt it was pathetic. i felt what he was doing was pathetic and i didn't want to deal with his patheticness. >> looking back, do you have regrets and the thought -- i mean, when you say chasing the secret...

With harvey weinstein. >> yeah. >> you heard stories about him over the years. up said that. why didn't you do more to try to stop him and protect the women? >> okay, i never heard the stories that later came out at all. i heard the same stories everybody had heard. frankly, to tell you the truth, i chalked it up to a madman era version of the boss chasing the secretary around the desk. i'm not saying that's okay. there was never any talk of rape or anything like that. the reason i didn't was because that's a real hard conversation to have because i -- i felt it was pathetic. i felt what he wa...