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Films, were in charge, or doing the castings from the casting couch, not people being interviewed, but the people deciding who's going to be in film. it's all about portraying women as sex objects. until that can change, until women are not objectified all around her cleanser, you see it in times square, women on billboards, you see it coming from hollywood. that is the main thing, women are used as sex objects in movies. i'm not so sure we're going to see so much of this changing the future. >> martha: what do you think? >> i have to say i agree with part of what you say, katie, but it's not ...

Good. we have seen george clooney do that, and i give another number of examples, but as a woman who has been the victim of sexual assault, as a woman sitting 20 minutes from hollywood where tinseltown -- and as a woman who knows meryl streep, not every single person knew of this allegation, the casting couch has been going on unfortunately since adam and eve. it is 2017, and we still have women coming forward. not only what this man. in various industries like politics as well. it is not just tinseltown. and quite frankly, it just shows how difficult it is for individuals to come forward. thi...

Industry, that must have known about his behavior. >> it was an open secret but what other decision could they take. imagine if they decided not to suspend harvey weinstein. there would have been condemnations from women's rights groups and decided that the time was right, yes, hollywood has put up with this long enough. and the academy, they sit in judgment of professional excellence. they never sat before in judgment of professional behavior. but someone's got to take a stand and it might as well be them who does it because the casting couch has been around since the days of silent movies. i...

Told ahead of the studio that h.w., harvey wein dean raped me. over and over aesthetic purity said it had been proven. i said i was the proof. arthel: have we become the culture of looking the other way and is not what will be the consequences? >> i hope we are. part of the problem here is harvey weinstein was not the only person doing this. we've heard stories about the casting couch for many years and they rolled their eyes and that is just hollywood. it's a terrible part in people are being hurt and minds being altered. we need one of these people to come out and good for rose mcgowan. one ...

Say anything. it shouldn't be a political issue. it's should be universally condemned, it's so fitting that he's trying to make himself a victim like i have a problem. shut up and think of you hurt. that doesn't go away, that will continue to affect that woman five tyrus, talk about the casting couch but it's not just hollywood. wherever there is powerful -- >> how do you think tyrus got his job? [laughter] greg: that's terrible. >> for foot nothing, you want to be in this job? excuse me. greg: it's 5-foot 0'". >> i was making up. don't hate me. take hollywood out of it and republican party an...