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Also even within conservative ranks about whether or not isolating a country, continuing to isolate will bring down this regime or pouring in market money will bring down the castros, finally, finally. and we're going to see. now we'll get a chance to see. >> the rest of the world that has already been there in cuba. >> you know, at the end of the day, this is a very serious decision to be made. and my issue is why don't we have a national discussion? why don't we bring the congress in? the country just elected a republican congress. they're the ones to have to lift the sanction. why don't we ...

And i think what nixon did opening china probably was the right thing to do. and i think we have a better chance of defeating castro with trade than we do with an embargo that just simply hasn't worked. >> i know you wrote in your op-ed let's hope cooler heads will ultimately prevail and we unleash a trade tsunami that washes the castros once and for all into the sea. is that a little too polly anna? >> i think we have the same goals. i think we all want to defeat communism. we'd like to see representative democracy in cuba. we all want that. it's just a question whether or not engagement or i...

To cuba fewer hoops to jump through. are we expecting an inflexion of cuban americans to visit the island? a they are, it's very exciting for them. many have relatives in the united states. there's some 2 million cuban americans there and some they haven't seen for a decade or longer. now, those cuban americans are making plans to come, because they believe it will now be easier. the reaction from cuban americans is interesting. before we came here, we were in little havana in miami. and we saw some anger from some of the older generation who could remember the darker days of cuba. they saw th...

And i think by obama doing this. i get to see my family again. >> a bunch of my friends don't agree exactly with obama. they think obama betrayed us and in a way it's true. >> as an american cuban, first generation born here. i was really excited. it brought a lot of tenderness to my heart. >> i think the new generation is hopeful. the older generation feels it's just a slap in their face. >> i don't believe obama and i don't believe castro. >> remove the castros and make we talk. >> i think it's working mr. obama talking, talking to the cuban people. >> i think it will bring a lot of air into...

Not only because we got one person who was spying for us in prison in cuba almost 20 years in exchange for three cuban spies that were in jail in the u.s. -- >> and alan gross. but the president insists that was part of a humanitarian deal he made with the castros. but i think the other big reason here obviously is that the president has legitimized the regime by restoring diplomatic relations. >> going to negotiate towards that end. >> right, he wants to have a u.s. embassy in cuba and open a cuban embassy here. the big thing here, paul, cuba right now is on the ropes. they are losing all of ...