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He wants to be on the younger side of things if he runs for president. >> well, ernesto, you know, the anti -- the anti-camp has united unlikely bedfellows as well. i think there are human rights hard liners who would prefer we didn't engage with the cast ross at all and they're now on the same side as hard core conservatives who want, again, no correspondence, no communication and a freezeout when it comes to the castros and that is nowhere more evident than the response from the washington post editorial page. the washington post not being known as ted cruz's or marco rubio's paper of choice...

>> that's a hypothetical, as well. i don't know that mr. castro has indicated a desire to visit the white house. i guess what i would say is that -- >> any more outrageous than the president going to cuba? >> i suppose not. the president has had the leaders of burma and china to the united states. so for that reason, i wouldn't rule out a visit from president castro. >> so there you go. it looks like trips from high level u.s. officials will come first. both secretary of state john kerry and the commerce secretary, who is a good friend of the president's, they say they are heading to cuba in t...

Sure there would have been a lot of congressional blowback and nixon said at the time, and you can fault him for a lot, that that was a week that would change the world. >> but the criticism still stands that we might have given up too much to make this happen. we saw one intel officer come home. there was a prisoner trade for that and then we saw allen gross who was there as a sub contractor and held in prison for five years come home yesterday as well. but did we give up too much? because there's still other things at play here. >> there are a lot of other things at play. very quickly, china...

Chris? >> patrick, thank you very much. we'll be back with you in a little bit. as you hear behind me right now. this is where people come in little havana to debate what's going on in their homeland. you know this is home now obviously. but there were so many forced to leave cuba and you're hearing it going on right now. people are angry here about what's happened. let's bring in somebody who represents the side of change, though, and believes this is a good idea. congressman jim mcgovern, a democrat from massachusetts, he's been involved in the ongoing discussions to open relations between t...

That has failed, right? i mean, the policy of regime change clearly hasn't worked. the castro brothers remain in power after over 50 years. it's time to try something new. and the policy of isolation has left cubans in a more destitute state than before. and the idea is that opening up cuba, by having access to new telecommunications, to internet, to more u.s. travelers, to more money flowing to cuban small businesses, this will only increase the pressure on the castro regime for change. look, they've used the embargo for the last 50 years as the response to why things don't work in cuba. and ...