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You know, make us safer? we always refer to the last major shooting and what could we do to effect that one as opposed to all of the shooting has happened in this country in the past year and the ones that are going to happen. what happened in newtown is a case of a parent who left their guns accessible to their kids. you can't do that. you can't do that. with the legislation, how we could affect that, we can't necessarily stop that shooting but we could have made it far less lethal. we know 11 kids are alive today because they escaped when he paused to reload. when you have 30 rounds in a mag...

All we're saying is if you go to the -- go to a gun show you're treated the same as if you went to the gun store. if i buy a rifle or a gun from another state and i call pat's state in pennsylvania, i'm in west virginia, they send the gun. they have it send the gun to an ffl dealer, a licensed dealer and i have to go there and do a background check. all we're saying is no matter where you buy the gun, in state or out of state you have to go through the same process. >> i would say three simple things here. our legislation strengthens background system and makes it work efficiently and quickly ...

The high capacity magazines aren't the issue. you know, we have the person that goes and purchases a gun and go through the background check. they are the legal abiding citizen. why should they go ahead and have to turn in a high capacity magazine or not be able to use a specific gun? i think we -- that is where we do start treading on a slippery slope when we go ahead and start naming certain guns that we have to ban or the high capacity magazines in which the gun does hold. >> mr. vice president -- >> a while no one challenged it and no one said it was unconstitutional. look. >> what about t...

To check 60% of the people gig g -- buying guns but 40%, it doesn't. >> tooen, what are your concerns when you listen to what he is saying here? >> it does sound reasonable. i guess the paranoia, the fear that when you start asking gun owners to go ahead and register their guns or do a universal background check -- >> i'm not asking them to register, tina. >> that is the paranoia attached to that, sir. i do support universal background checks whole heartedly. the reason why, too, is because i want to know that if my gun is stolen, yes, it registers to me but if i also go ahead and sell a gun t...

Be some stronger legislation, i think, around particularly securing weapons and make them safe in our community. but in addition to that as well, too, and i think she would agree, is that we have to train. we have to teach gun safety very early on in our communities across this country and that is key. >> tina, you've brought this up. i've heard the same thing, mr. vice president. nothing you're talking about, joe, is going to have any impact on sandy hook and it may not. it may have an impact on the next sandy hook, but you talk about what we are all talking about right now, gun safety. i saw...