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Spousal abuse and hosting champagne and cocaine parties. what i think is real interesting here and what one is beginning to see is you're demolishing the claims that blagojevich that there was this firewall between politics and government. that's what he told the fbi which is why he's certainly going to be in trouble, at least when it comes to possible perjury charges, but you're right in analogizing to tony soprano and the real life tough guys because as one also has gone on so far, one sees these guys talking in code. blagojevich and three other amigos refer to themselves by numbers, one, tw...

Welcome back to "hardball." actually the trial of former illinois governor rod blagojevich is under way in chicago. witnesses are taking the stand, and the prosecutors have a money tavern evidence, apparently, featuring some audio tapes of blago himself. lynn sweet is a columnist for dailypolitics.com and jim warren is a columnist for the chicago news cooperative. let's listen right now. here's some of the audio tape played at trial. this is a conversation between the governor and his brother robert about barack obama's senate seat. it was on the saturday before the 2008 presidential election....

What's the number going to be next week? is it going to be 100 gallons? mean, who knows? let's sit around and watch, i guess, but we've got to stop that leak now! >> okay. you've explained a lot to me, sir. thank you, larry johnson, downs in pensacola. we'll have you back on again. coming up, federal prosecutors are laying out their case against ex-illinois governor rod blagojevich, and they have released a batch of audio tapes of catching blago in action. we've got the tapes and will show them to you. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. to help with my investments. tdd# 1-800-345-2550...