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Attorney/client privilege, and then flag them, and if there was a dispute, the judge would work it out. as part of that review, they found this recording, and then they are the ones who flagged it for the trump team. so they learned about it through that. so we don't have any categorization that trump knew in the moment, that's not reporting we have either way. but given what we know about the provenance of this, we don't have any indication that he knew. >> kristen welker, how is the white house handle all these issues? you've been following it every day. this is a new breaking story. but how...

I'm a defendant who hasn't died you die tattooed across his chest slimy to herman or from beyond to shape the main difference. you listen to the witnesses from their surroundings and it's like a swamp in which humans cease being human. everyone is just a representative of a certain group. and. there's no more mr as you do or you know no mystery a shark just a comma. and. the minutes over time but i realize that cynicism is contagious and it's made me more cynical. in the foul. because i was in danger of falling into the other person's categorization of thinking the same way in all the doing an...

Danger of falling into the other person's categorization of thinking the same way in all the day when i had to be wary of these people. i had started thinking like them when i notice that it wasn't good for me. and that i needed professional help . so i sought out a therapist who. i think it's hard to stay the person you used to be in an environment like that. did lesson i don't know how to explain it and i will. understand i felt it was a very. i found is very internal a destructive to hear what they were saying and how they were saying it on water.

But based on the experts that you've been talking to, any sense of how long a reunification process could take? >> well, the real answer is, it could take a long time. and here's why. when the department of homeland security began implementing this policy, basically what they did was once the parent was sent over to department of justice custody to face criminal charges, the child was essentially redesignated an unaccompanied minor, so they were redesignated as if they had come to the country by themselves. once that categorization was made, they were turned over to hhs and they are subject to...

Christians gentlemen we have ever had. that's fdr's commemoration of robert e. lee. this is a wild territory we are in. i don't know where it ends, guys. >> i would have to disagree with that. i think it's a slippery slope if we are continuing to put these individuals, these confederate generals in similar categories as thomas jefferson. they are not in similar categories as thomas jefferson. you have individuals who really founded our country, christian principles. you talk about robert e. lee, democrat who lived to destroy the fabric of our very country. yet. >> laura: he didn't own slaves h...