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We had to shut her up. >> then a second incriminating conversation. >> then i heard another conversation where she was shut up. it was in that same room. a couple of weeks later. i haven't seen her no more. ever since i heard the conference said, she was shut up. shut her up. >> that may be. but cathy jayne olson told three different versions of the story. the most recent one included right field bailey. >> did you ever say to frank jayne jr. the candy lady has to be shut up? >> definitely not. >> something else, cathy was an alcoholic at the time she claims to have overheard the plan to shut ...

Stables for years and years and years. >> the stables were a magnet to attract wealthy people for fraud and a witch's brew of criminal activity. >> while they are advertising boarding your horse and show jumping there is a whole other world there. >> yes. the pomp and circumstance was the tip of the iceberg. immediately below the surface were predatory criminals who really lived as if they were in the wild west. >> the lords of this underworld were the jane family. >> i guess i would describe them as the horse mafia. they are the granddads of all of it. >> cathy olson, cathy jane olson no long...

Cathy olson, she testified against bailey and her father. broke all ties with her family, swearing to a conversation she overheard in the stable. >> okay. i was in the outer office one day and mrs. brach came in and she knocked on the main office door and richard bailey and my father were both in the office. >> cathy jayne says helen brach started yelling says she had been cheated, she was going to the authorities. >> i heard a conversation between bailey and my dad that we had to shut her up. >> then a second incriminating conversation. >> then i heard another conversation where she was shut ...

They became a mafia, killing each other and anyone who got in their way, including perhaps helen brach. cathy's legendary uncle silas was godfather. >> he was the smartest man i ever knew. he could talk anybody into buying any horse. he could do anything with horses and people. >> silas jayne was a great horseman. some say behind the smile was a ruthless thug. >> people were deathly afraid of him. the criminals flocked to him. >> why were so many people afraid of silas jayne? >> he was a cold blooded killer. >> if you crossed him or did something that might make that empire topple, you were go...

>> then i called my lawyer and i said i do know something i think they truly will want to know about. i know about helen brach. i was solicited to kill helen. and that brought steve miller running. >> in return for his testimony, the government cut his sentence in half, paid him $6,000 and helped pay for a hernia operation. >> joe plemmons was given benefits no greater and much less than many other cooperative witnesses. >> he had a lot of reasons to say whatever you wanted him to say, wouldn't you say? >> he was aware of details that only someone privy to these sinister conversations would ha...