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The harry reid that the public sees and quoted as saying, you know, that -- quote, the -- excuse me, reid is a master of that practices pale-faced bump kin from search light act. and it mask a ruthless and machiavellian politician. explain what you mean by that. >> i think just because of his appearance, steve, harry reid is easy to underestimate. doesn't have a booming voice, not a charismatic guy. but as jim manly well knows, even though he may not tell all, today harry reid behind the scenes is exactly as i described him. one of the reasons he's able to hold his caucus together is he's will...

Going to be shortlived and the republicans are going to lose, because they are not unanimous in their caucus. probably a third of the caucus doesn't want a shutdown. they're going along because the tail is wagging the dog. and i think it is a matter of time until the dog stops wagging. i do believe we should stay here, because in two weeks we're going to have a real fight -- >> i agree, the debt ceiling -- >> the republicans will win. >> but the republican party -- >> final word with you, mr. speaker. >> sure, a republican party which can't fight over a shutdown is a republican party which won...

Detroit. now we're a city of 700,000 people and an infrastructure for 2 million people like wearing an oversized coat all the time and trying to serve outlying areas with electricity and water. it's a huge burden on a city that doesn't have people there anymore. it's a kind of perfect storm of some of the things that you mentioned, corruption and all that. but we find ourselves in this situation into there are positive signs, reports of a young entrepreneurial base growing in the downtown area. do you see that pocket of growth as something positive for the future? >> absolutely. and it's very ...

The word tolerance which i think makes sense since he's the head of a political party that never displaysny, doesn't it? >> yes, and we sawia that did for them during the last election. you wonder when they're going to get the message on this and change things, not just on immigration but a host of other issues, as well. the strange thing that's going on with respect to immigration right now is why the republicans are letting this hang out there for so long. if they want to kill the bill, they should do it quickly rather than taking the beating they continue to take with people like steve king...

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