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Challenges, aside from the fact that you can't see? >> well, we rely on our eyesight. so that is obviously a major concern. in this particular situation, training the kids. it's their first dive. and if they have them walk on the bottom, fine. we're not going to worry about the finessing of cave-diving. our focus is to get them out. not being able to see, one of the golden rules in cave-diving, we have a guideline from the point of exit to penetration. the chamber where the soccer team is. so they have to keep contact with that. you have three divers. you have the young scout -- or not scout, ...

Part of the thailand operation. thank you so much for joining me. let's just start with what tom was talking about. 11 football fields. that's about the size of the area that we know is submerged. so these young boys have to be -- never mind that the res cures ha cuers have to get to them, but to return, these young boys have to be wearing scuba masks and be taught instantly how to use those in order to get out and survive. >> yeah. so this is a daunting task. let's put our prayers to the family, the rescuers. when you're talking 11 football fields, you have to appreciate that in a good cave-d...

Get the other eight individuals, mostly kids, obviously, and one coach, out? do you get the sense that because this was successful that they'll do the same process going forward? >> well, success -- we've got four out now. no reason not to try it again. kids are resilient. i'll give them that. these kids appear to be in good shape, good physical condition. they have to build a bond up with these divers in a very short period of time. the chamber that they're in is losing this oxygen supply. to resupply it with any other breathable gas is a challenge. the logistics are phenomenal here. everythi...