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You've seen that over the last 24 hours. >> if people like the profile of a really tough gladiator like newt, do they care how much scar tissue he has? >> i don't think they care how much scar tissue -- >> let's let steve finish. i'm sorry. let steve finish that thought, then jump in here, jennifer. steve, does it matter -- if you want a pit bull, does it matter whether the guy's got a few scratches on him? >> listen, i think he's a person of great talent. he's also a person of great flaws. i think for republicans, what's healthy is that we have a discussion about these talents and flaws in th...

>> i don't think they care how much scar tissue -- >> let's let steve finish. i'm sorry. let steve finish that thought, then jump in here, jennifer. steve, does it matter -- if you want a pit bull, does it matter whether the guy's got a few scratches on him? >> listen, i think he's a person of great talent. he's also a person of great flaws. i think for republicans, what's healthy is that we have a discussion about these talents and flaws in the context of a primary, and not be reminded of them or rediscover them in the context of a general election. it's important that republican voters know ...