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Insurance under obama cared that this would imperil. this was the nail in their coffin. these are the headlines a few weeks ago. now, the white house is coming out saying basically these are all fake numbers to begin with and we shouldn't be paying attention to it. >> it goes to what we're talking about earlier, that they have to proactively send out statement to say to the american people, jesse said he knows cbo comes out in the media talks about this, a lot of it isn't actually accurate. you can read a lot of it. >> the cbo methodology which favors the competition is fundamentally flawed. a...

Of premiums. that's extremely critical, making sure that the cost of premiums are reduced. and so i think that's important. make sure deductibles are reduced. and take the medicaid discussion off the table at this time. >> julian, would you agree with that compromise that christopher is saying, hey, republicans in the senate, how about this idea? >> i think it's a great theoretically. it's whis ling past the graveyard. this is a bill that is having a great deal of difficulty getting enough republican support and for good reason. the cbo estimates which have been accurate on almost every single...

Replace legislation in the senate to get this done. go get them fired up and say, hey, there are a lot of folks who would like to go with 100% repeal. i think he may have been lighting a fire under them and drawing more attention to the overall need to get this done. we saw another provider pull out of ohio and another out of nevada. we have to get this right and fix this. i think that's probably what the president was speaking to. hey, bottom line, i'm glad we are talking health care. this is a big deal. >> it's hard to know because he won't answer questions today at the joint press and the w...

Something they don't want to buy? >> jonathan gerber? >> so it's hard to say where to begin. start with the last point. first of all, cbo estimates that the individual mandate itself, getting rid of that will cost about one-third of the total amount. moreover,s that not people forced to buy insurance. part of that people who will drop insurance because it's become more expensive because the healthy left the market. point one. point two, cbo, there were two key rejections had to do with this law and years before it was implemented. how people will be covered and what would happen to premiums? c...

Deficit between 2017 and 20026. when it comes to the premiums, they will go 10% higher in 2019 but drop 30% in 2020. steve: if you believe the cbo estimates. they have been historically really wrong. for instance back in 2013. they were estimating in the year 2017, this year we are in right now, there would be 25 million people on obama obamacare. do you know how many they there are? 10 million. they are off by 15 million people. ainsley: some senators say they are going to look at the cbo report before they make a decision. it's not something necessarily set in stone. you can't predict the fu...