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And it remains to be seen, it's hard to speculate what the order will say, but if the detention of families continues then we're still going to be creating a different problem. >> one of the things that's come up during a number of conversations i've had with people here, asylum seekers and the fact that there is this backlog for folks who are trying to enter the country legally. what can you tell us about that? has that been overstated or is there -- is there, in fact, a significant backlog that's leading to more people trying to get into this country illegally? >> it has not been overstated....

Many people have -- will decide in the future to have an issue with imminent domain. >> if you build a wall on the u.s. side of the border, you have to create a no-man's-land between the wall and the rio grande river. how many acres of land of america land do we have to cede to mexico to do that? >> well, what we'll have to do is look at the terrain, the traffic, the accessibility and, you're right, we have to tailor the solutions for each part of the border to make sure that we don't have to do anything that is unnecessary, whether that is additional land acquisition. >> if we don't have an a...

U.s. side of the border you have to create a no man's land between the wall and the rio grande river. how many acres of land of american land do we have to crede to mexico to do that? >> we have to look at the terrain, accessibility and tailor the solution for each part of the border to make sure we don't have to do anything that's unnecessary whether it's additional land acquisition. >> if we don't have an agreement with mexico to pay for it and if as many say a wall is last century's technology, with that $18 billion, how many more cbp agents could you hire or tsa screeners to shorten lines ...

Mexico is irrelevant as long as the guidelines published continue to say they will hire 15,000 more cbp agents as long as those guidelines say they will deport anybody all over the u.s. territory not just within a hundred miles of a border not only in the u.s. for 14 days or two years. and also those who can be suspected of having committed a chargeable act whatever that means. so i don't care what kelly says. i'm interesting in what the exsective decrease say. >> what we heard was president trump talk of military operation