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For a few years, democrats want forever and citizenship and basically saying congress, you're going to have to figure this out. it shouldn't be the courts and it shouldn't be temporary deals. it puts it on the table. >> it was a democratic president who said i've got a magic wand, we're going to keep these folks in america. so this was started by the democrats and the democrats in congress haven't worked with the president on an actual deal to get them to stay here. we talked to a daca recipient on the show earlier who had a clear message to the democrats. we supports the wall and wants them t...

From daca protection. on those two issues, the vice president stuck to the president's line about daca and dreamers. while this is still an issue to be decided in the supreme court. that's not slamming the door on discussions that are happening here. it is closing it gently for now. on the question that i ask him, now they have a laundry list of items that the white house asked for in addition to the wall. they asked $5.7 billion from the wall and $6 billion in other security measures. i asked the vice president is it better to get most of what you want or all of what you want. he said no. wal...

Something that doesn't leave you. when it comes to a solution, they say the solution for the shut joup would be for democrats to give democrats funding for the border wall in exchange for daca protection. how likely you do think a deal is like that? do you see either side really budging? >> look. the democrats have already funded and supported funding for adegreeal border controls as i said earlier. $1.7 billion for additional hardening at the border. democrats supported that. they have spent 6% of that. what has to happen is you need bipartisan dialogue, not with a political agenda, but an ag...

Is a problem, this current problem is because republicans and democrats are so dug in. it's a problem because of the president. the last time we were here, in january, with another threatened shutdown over the issue of immigration, there was a bipartisan deal that was struck and at the 11th hour it was president trump who walk away from that deal because he didn't want to back a bill with daca in it because he thought that it would be seen by his base as amnesty. he walked away from that deal in a meeting which included a report of him using a very colorful name to talk about haiti and african...

But these federal workers want to go back to work, that's the bottom line. and trump said that he would take it on himself. he is not doing that, surprise, surprise, he's not following through on something that he said. but ultimately he will get the blame for it, and republicans. >> what about trading the wall for daca, how likely do you think that is? >> to some extent the democrats are serious about immigration reform and daca. i don't know that the president is, because that's not where his base is. his base is about that wall. it is not about what he would argue or some of his supporters ...