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Could that, if he did in fact offer the pardon to flynn, could that be part of an obstruction charge and some have said, it could possibly be a bribery charge because he's trying to ibe a witness? but i think, you know, the part of why it's an absolute power is no one, i don't think anyone ever assumed it would be used in this way. pardons are supposed to be about justice but not vindictiveness or personal favors. >> or obstructing justice. >> yeah, he's taking someone who pled guilty to a crime. admitted under oath he was guilty, had his arguments to the judge that this was selective prosecut...

Because he's trying to bribe a witness. but i think, you know, part of why it is an absolute power is because no one -- i don't think anyone ever assumed it would be used in this way. you know, pardons are supposed to be about justice, not about vindictiveness or personal favors. >> or about obstructing justice. >> yeah. he's taking someone who pled guilty to a crime. i mean, admitted under oath that he was guilty, had his arguments to the judge that this was selective prosecution and, you know, all of that is being thrown under the table. >> rev, i ask you this question. i want to read from t...