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Censors. jason, in watching this happen and unfold and learning more and more and seeing kyle rittenhouse come out with a challenge for elon musk, can you look into what they did for me and show them those files? this is picking up speed. what do you think about the white house and what it is doing? >> for the white house spokesperson to suggest that it was merely a coincidence, remember, james baker was the general counsel for the federal bureau of investigation and then he goes over and starts working for twitter. you are telling me he doesn't have any communication with the department of ju...

And uprisings that were fueled in part by people's access to easy information. and i think that's why the government has invested so much in creating this great firewall of censorship within china. however, it does take human decision making to to to make it work. and in the first few days of the protests, certainly over the weekend, there was a lot that was getting past the censors because people were in this cat and mouse game. people were trying to invent new ways of being sarcastic or newjokes that were kind of not immediately, obviously, about the protests, for example. i saw it. yeah, th...

Of getting it down. so by the end of sunday, if you, if you page down, the top would be a mix of porn and protest about 5050, according to one government official i spoke to, a contractor, but if you page down a bit, it wasjust it was just all adult content. and how willing, i guess, of the uk, of the us tech companies being to help chinese protesters bypass the censors. it is a very sticky situation. it's extremely sensitive. apple has is coming under increasing pressure for the concessions it's made to the government there. china's enormous market and of course elon musk's biggest, biggest m...

To european business people in china working for multinationals about their, about their policy in terms of in high tech areas is extremely politically sensitive. so i think that now there is no clear boundary between what is and what isn't 0k. and joseph menn from the washington post, i mean, have you noticed any change since you've been monitoring social media? are the chinese censors winning? so on social media, i mean, there is an enormous range of tools that are used. so there there is word blocking. there's obviously the great firewall, but there's a lot of pressure on the companies them...

The chinese firewall and access platforms that are blocked in the country. so, we're talking platforms like facebook, twitter, even youtube, google — all these platforms that you just can't access. instead, in the country, there are chinese equivalents. so instead of google, you've got baidu, instead of facebook, you've got weibo. people are using cryptic messages to talk about the protests and talk about their frustrations. so, these started originally with shanghai being a massively popular city, peoplejust talking about shanghai. then what happened is the censors stepped in because they r...