Mueller, that when he wants to pull back the curtain, he's got the goods. i'm thinking of the indictment about the key stroke evidence, about what you're both saying that here are five more people we never heard of. i had never heard of george papadopoulos before i learned he pled guilty and before we learned how instrumental he was at starting that counterintelligence investigation with his enter actions. can you both speak to the broader point that frank is making about bob mueller's investigation in all that we don't know and all the president doesn't know, starting with you, harry. >> sure...