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Am expecting an indictment in the next few days or weeks of andrew mccabe, comey's former deputy fbi director. and that will put front and center mccabe's behavior in the same period that this all -- all of this stuff is going on. in the form of a potential criminal trial. so i think, you know, comey's individual role may be, you know, on the wane as a subject of discussion but i don't think we're through with sort of the fbi as a subject yet. >> okay. ben, thank you for reading and analyzing that for us. still ahead the must read opinion page including gene's new piece on something he says ...

He has merely confirmed the discussion that was initially reported elsewhere. the statement comes after the republican chairman of the powerful senate judiciary committee who has direct oversight for the fbi and the justice department did not rule out issuing a subpoena to secure testimony from mccabe and deputy attorney general rob rosenstein. >> you're having a conversation over whether or not you would invoke the 25th amendment, i imagine that if the she was on the other foot my democratic colleagues want to know about the conversation. but involve the democrat. >> in congressional testimon...

Invoking the 25th minute, trying to get part of the cabinet to come in. basically saying that the president can no longer serve in his capacity. what are the invocations for mccabe? >> let's start with the application as far as the president is concerned, that this is confirmation of the existence of a deep state at the fbi. and the department of justice. my reaction to all of this is not that i needed to believe andy mccabe on the point, but that the fact is the justice department is in more trouble than we ever imagined. >> melissa: let me play the devil's advocate on that and flip it over t...

Russia? what would that team need to bring to the floor not to justify what they may have done their? >> it wasn't their place. first of all, who the actors in a mccabe? is not elected to anything. he wasn't an appointment with the advice and consent of the senate. he's the person who was loyal to jim comey and he professed it after the firing of coming to extend an existing investigation of the president. with regard to the potential of obstruction of justice, which the now-new attorney general has said has no basis. he said so during his commission hearing. you read his book, and you even re...

The rest of america -- who is paying attention -- as you seem to have this ruling class in washington who has a grip on power. whether they are politicians, political figures in the top of these different departments, even in some cases journalists. people who are invested in the power that they have in washington. president trump has upended that power. the power they've carved for themselves prayed he straightened it. i think that's driving a bunch of people to do crazy things, like potentially this. >> elizabeth: the fbi itself does not have a role in the 25th amendment. but it's clear that...