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He's going to hurt democrats chances against trump. an interesting thing we found in our polls is that shults is most appealing to groups that have supported trump, men, white americans. those who approve of the job trump is doing as president. they're most likely to support shultz if he runs in 2020. who do you think should be more worried if he runs? republicans or democrats? >> well, you know, i think it's very early to answer that question. that's interesting polling, it depends where shultz, what lane he choses to run. does he run in the center right space. is he smack dab in the middle o...

A place for him in this field? i really doubt. early on you had the legacy republican party desperately wanted jeb bush to run. up through september, october, up until pretty much thanksgiving, it really looked like bush was not going to run. that's when you started seeing this ground swell for chris christie build up. it was looking for a center right, but not right-right candidate. the day it started looking like jeb bush was going to run, that was the end -- to me, that was like the end for chris christie. the bridge stuff, unless he's indicted it's beside the point. all the air has been ou...