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Boeing but the faa. there's going to be a lot of finger pointing back and forth between the two, to kind of divert the responsibility as to who started this. it really doesn't matter who started it when you've got that many fatalities on your hands. >> so these were internal messages going, you know, back and forth between employees, but if these pilots, if other employees were so worried back then, why wouldn't they have come forward or done so more vocally? >> ana, this is something we've been looking at since 2004. we had a certification process study. i led an aviation rule making committe...

>> it is a term that's been used and that's what the faa has been working away from, a certification process. it was started by nick sabatini as a result of the fact that now it is not just about a singular cause and having it fixed. it is more complicated. as these aircraft get much more complex, you have to look at the relationship between the systems and look for precursors. >> with this gps system that they are going to have in place by 2020 in the united states, would that have made it much easier? i mean, if it was on -- in the area for flight 370 to track it? >> yes, absolutely. the cer...