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Cha ch made it sound like they were going to have evidence against the accusers, e with haven't seen that. it appears there's a disconnect between what the campaign has pledged as far as pushback and what we've seen. you recognize why this has become such a very, very real problem for the campaign. >> you do and as you said, ryan, you think this is evidence that the conway effect is no more. that trump saying i've been released from my shacks shows the conway experiment didn't work. right? >> i think from my interviewing and time spent with her, she had an understanding of certain demographic ...