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On man in a fosht, that meeting in trump tower, certainly trump had an awareness there was something wrong about that, or he wouldn't have written that statement that he did. covering it up. >> he surely knows a lot about flynn. he's no doubt worried about what he's going to say. and trump is not a person to sit still. it's like he cannot -- he cannot wait. he must get out in front of it. and he's -- but in the meantime, rudy giuliani has made more admissions against trump's interests than mueller. >> i mean, what a lawyer rudy giuliani's turning out to be, he basically said his lawyer could g...

Something nixon never grasped, because he claimed presidents could commit crimes and make them legal by being president. >> in essence, what you're saying there certain situations -- that plan was one of them. where the president can decide that it's in the best interest of the nation or something. and do something illegal? >> well, when the president does it, that means it's not illegal. >> that phrase lives on as one of nixon's low points. the weight of authority is against self-pardons. they are invalid because they place a president above the law. he also notes any conservative reading of ...

Think brian will agree with this, is that when you overlay the politics of this with the constitution and the law, that's what makes it so hard. and what makes it so divisive, and so political. the constitution clearly -- if you read the text in the constitution, the president according do the constitution, the president can grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the united states, except in the case of impeachment, that's it. that's all it says. everything else we're left -- >> we have the doj also saying, you can't do it, and you have a body of law that is common sense, which is ju...

Different responsibilities. one he is the president of the united states. he's the chief executive officer. he has a responsibility to democracy and the rule of law. he always puts his own private interest above. >> here we talk about norms. one reason it's never come up before, even if presidents could, most of them wouldn't consider this, they view their responsibilities as higher than this president does. >> they also would seem to take more seriously, the implication of it, stay with me, i want to bring in margaret carlson. take a listen to the republicans rather bizarre claim from the esi...