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Wrapped up into this legally. what do you make of his approach to be talking about it, be out there, doing interviews and the like. >> i don't understand it. sam nunberg did the same thing when he was subpoenaed by robert mueller. he went on tv and went on this tir tirade about how he wasn't going to comply. what's the point of talking to davis when she knows nothing about collusion and everything she did for me was legal. why make that case? you're not helping her or change mueller's mind about talking to her. i think he should keep his mouth shut. if there's nothing to find, there's nothing ...

This first. how does this change mueller's investigation on the obstruction of justice front? >> i don't think it changes it as much as potentially strengthens it. again, mueller's main challenge here is to prove in his obstruction case that the president fired comey with corrupt intent. absent the president, you know, confessing to this, he has to kind of create that through circumstantial evidence and a pattern of behavior can go towards that. and this adds to the pattern of behavior. we know he asked for comey for loyalty, asked mcgahn to get sessions to not recuse, put pressure on the cia ...

Political bent for them. it all goes in the clinton direction. the first question i have for you is, given this new part of the spotlight, turning back on the obama administration asking how they dealt with this information when at that point it was pretty much everyone thought hillary clinton was going to win, and he chose not to come out and talk about it. that does deserve a question for the president. it is not going to change mueller's investigation, this newer angle to all of this? >> look, mueller's investigation has nothing to do with russia. he is going to go after obstruction of just...