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Problem, the relationship of the controllers to the administrators at the faa. i think secretary la hood is doing a good job. i mean, he is a genuine friend of the consumer, he is a friend of the public's, and i think he is really just furious about this and there's going to be some changes in the towers. gregg: well, but he announced some of the changes on fox news sunday, but my goodness, as i understand the rules, those changes don't go into effect when he announces them. they have to be negotiated and approved by the union, don't they? >> they do have to be approved by the union, and the u...

>> i think that you're wrong about that. i think if you had been there -- you probably were this weekend and saw the energy that was in washington, d.c. that's what elections are for. we're going to have one in november and we're going to have another one in 2012. most of these changes don't go into effect -- some of which i agree with. but what we should have done was sat down and done things that we agree with. ps t it is the law now and people have to understand it is the law. it will be challenged. people on your show this morning were talking about the potential court challenges of some o...