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They were going to crack at him from wherever they could grab the last two years anyway. it would be melting down whatever bid that they could to form a new santa fired president. so, on the one hand, i do think that they are going to shape this into a character argument, which the biden white house could have gotten out of in front of more. from where i completely understand there's going to be as forthcoming as possible the people who actually make decisions about whether this was illegal are not. >> alicia, sam's was careful to say that he was speaking to the contents of the document. a, do...

Sure. you mentioned the president's erratic behavior and character has been something that is really been an issue for many democrats running against him and voters who have expressed concerns about president trump. are you the right person to make a character argument against the president? >> no, that's why i said, i am focused very much on the spending. i do have a bit of history there. i inherited a billion-plus dollar hole when i first came in as governor of south carolina. we dealt with that. i was the first governor of the country to turn back stimulus money. we dealt with that. i was o...

Pulling his cheers from, if they are cheering on the immigration lines, that doesn't necessarily reflect independents, maybe some softer trump voters who aren't happy. i'm not just saying just on the issue of immigration. what that tells me is that the president himself is hurting himself. >> that's the challenge because if he goes -- levies those insults that actually energizes his crowd it does put off the same voters he wants to attract and it goes to the character argument that joe biden is making in particular saying, you know, may not be -- the economy may be doing well but look at the p...

Into these last 72 hours than some other candidates. >> and neera, one of the things we're hearing from some of these red state democrats is an argument of, look, i know you might not always agree with me, you but you know i stand up what i think is right. a character argument. take a listen to snippets from a couple ads. >> i don't always agree with claire mccaskill, but she works hard, fighting against those tariffs, doing all those town halls. and claire is not afraid to stand up against her own party. >> bet you never heard this in a political ad. i may not be the candidate for you. if you...

Community. >> thanks, nicole. >> when we come back, role reversal. democrats seize the character argument from republicans. former president obama reaching out to democrats, independents and republicans with a hefty dose of straight talk, on top of his campaign trail main stays of hope and change. we will bring you the democrats' closing message after this. ♪ ♪ the new capital one savor card. earn 4% cash back on dining and 4% on entertainment. now when you go out, you cash in. what's in your wallet?