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And it becomes -- it changes personalities. and character bends. i have heard great things about john kelly. and i think a lot of us believed he was a good moderating force in the white house. but there's been several examples and more than a couple just this week that certainly raise concern for a lot of us. >> do you think he can survive this? do you think he should? >> you know, it's been a series of things. i don't know who would replace him. >> yes. >> i don't know who the last man standing will be there. >> or who would even want that gig. >> at the least i hope it's a learning moment. >...

And it's certainly true of donald trump and the people around him. it's true of any president that there is an infectious thing that happens around presidents. and it becomes -- it changes personalities. and character bends. i have heard great things about john kelly. and i think a lot of us believed he was a good moderating force in the white house. but there's been several examples and more than a couple just this week that certainly raise concern for a lot of us. >> do you think he can survive this? do you think he should? >> you know, it's been a series of things. i don't know who would re...