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Impeachment is arguably the best track he has to winning re-election. you can paint yourself as the victim, but the president himself, though, is sort of growing sla growing very antsy about that. >> he has to hope that balances out -- >> you know this guy. by the way by calling the trump criminal investigations doesn't mean you get to impeachment if you don't want to, but this guy is the simple communicator. it's a versus b. once you give him impeachment there's no longer discussion about all these specific things that are pretty spectacular or heinous in each one of them, and you allow him a...

Arguably the best track he has to winning re-election. you can paint the democrats as over reaching, paint yourself as the victim. but the president is growing very antsy about that. >> well, he has to count act donny's point with the trump economic successes and hope that balances out the -- >> you know this guy. by calling it the trump criminal investigation doesn't mean you don't eventually get to impeachment but this guy is a simple communicator. "a" versus "b." once you give him impeachment there is no longer discussion of all these specific things that are pretty spectacular or heinous i...

Debate. there are some hangers on that are trying to get there, for five of them. to go after joe biden at this point, it looks like he might be the front runner. i don't know if democrats want to give that up. who can go against them? >> ari: is also ridiculously early. >> harris: it is ridiculously early. >> ari: the dynamic really kicks in and the fall in the winter. you don't even have the iowa caucus, the first test, until february of 2020. there's a lot of time for these guys. inevitably they will. it is competition, they will fight, they will ratchet it up. it's human nature and its pol...

Merry? >> harris: obama had to come a distance on that, i remember >> ari: he says because a souffle. you poke him and he deflates. >> melissa: picking of a character issue, to bring it back to and sexually happened. this was the president taking a shot at biden why his overseas on another mission entirely. seemingly siding with a dictator. and here is, in fact, what adam kinzinger said in response to that. it's memorial day weekend that you are taking a shot at biden while praising a dictator? this is just plain wrong. this is yet another one of those situations where at the very least we say...

What i'm asking from people if you want a confidence president who believes in the innovative ca capability of the united states, who wants to look forward, not backwards, that's a character issue. i think we appeal to the deeper character of america like john f. kennedy did, we will do just fine. we will make donald trump history and restore the better nature of the character of america. i'm ready to do that. >> i found something refreshing in that conversation, how much he talked about the science, believing the science and what reality is. your reaction to what you heard there. he's a singl...