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Opposite. it is a character issue. i didn't trust them and they came in with a tax cut, and talked about weapons of mass destruction i had already learned not to trust them because they went back on their campaign promises. i wanted to know, is there really evidence of weapons of mass destruction? i took the effort to go to the cia, on my own, alone, no staff. met with 20 analysts and said i have to vote on this in three weeks and i said show me everything you have at the cia in langley and it was with over an hour-long meeting even they could -- they were emphatic about it there is no enthusi...

P.a.c.s, really good operatives and professionals no disrespect to your former guest. the best people in the republican party dent work at the rnc. they work for the top campaigns and super pacs, the ability to have a big if pact on the race is really diminished in the current world of super-p.a.c.s and celebrity candidates. >> interesting. really shifted. i want to talk hillary clinton. her favorability numbers in the new cnn poll they're upside down still. how big a problem is it for her at this stage of the race? i know you have written before that favorability ratings matter more for women...

Authority that they work through. and that would begin with god at the head of course and then after that comes the family. the next highest authority. and within that family of course the father is the ultimate judge. he is the one who makes the final choices. but then after that they would look to the church elders the church body you know so it's very much this whole idea of what's going on here is a heart problem, it's a character issue, that's why they would send him off to do hard labor, to kind of distract him, get him on a different, you know, rather than seeing it as okay this was a c...

Attention. on the other hand, there was a poll from last month that asked the question, do you think hillary clinton is honest and trustworthy? look at that. 54% saying no. casey, i wonder how you interpret that number. obviously, on the surface, that is a bad number for any politician. i guess sort to have clinton crowd would say, look that number was just as high for bill clinton and he got re-elected in 1996. >> well, that is the question. can you be considered untrustworthy and still be somebody who people want to see in the white house? and i think, steve, we also have to take a step back...

A bad number for any position. i guess some of the clinton crowd would say, look that number was just as high for bill clinton and he got re-elected in 1996. >> well, that is the question. can you be considered untrustworthy and still be somebody who people want to see in the white house? and i think, steve, we also have to take a step back and remember that while i do think, as we were discussing, that that is a risk tease built into this for her. if those numbers drive far enough up, it becomes a defining character issue. it certainly could hurt her. but she still has to come up against an o...