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Recognized that he knew he had been investigating collusion between the russians and the trump campaign since july. and i think he recognized from a very early phase that there was going to be -- serious jeopardy for his job and he recognized the person that he was dealing with and some of the character issues that you have so demonstrated and talked about just now and last several years and i think he came loaded for bear. >> and steve, today in the senate intelligence committee hearing. it wasn't so much -- the partisan divide is interesting to watch. i'm not sure what they really disagree o...

It's a simple rule, sometimes there's a good reason to put your client on the stand but for the most part rare is the defense case that improves. when you put your loaned on the stand -- bill cosby has a lot of character issues if he were to get on the stand and testify, it will probably make a weak prosecution case stronger if he flail while under cexamination. >> not likely to take the stand. gene, any outcome on this trial could it vindicate cosby on any public opinion? >> i don't think that's for me to say, i think that's for history to say. i think this jury will determine what they belie...

Mind-blowing. so i just realize, and i've come to the rational conclusion, that he's obviously in some sort of mental crisis and this mental health issue is now, you know, in my life real personal. you can't help but have sympathy for the family, of course, but at the same time, compassion for those who suffer from chemical imbalances and not character issues. >> do you know if he was suffering from anything in the past? do any of you know anything about that? >> i'm not aware, don. not at all. but we definitely want to make sure that the family of mr. godwin knows that the members of omega si...

Better circumstances. walter, let me begin with you. when you saw the action of this terrible crime, what went through your head? >> i really struggled for a number of hours reconciling in my mind the guy that i know with the guy i see here on facebook, and i still can't really do it. it's just -- it's so surreal that, you know, it's just mind-blowing. so i just realize, and i've come to the rational conclusion, that he's obviously in some sort of mental crisis and this mental health issue is now, you know, in my life real personal. you can't help but have sympathy for the family, of course, b...

>> sorry about that. there's a recount happening, but stay tuned. you would think, though, that the fact that the trump folks are considering not necessarily never trumpers but the likes of governor haley, no love lost there initially or even a mitt romney in his whole eviscerating trump you're a coward speech back in march and then utah could you think that will allay some concerns from the left? >> well, it won't allay concerns -- there were people who thought the sky was falling when donald trump was elected. and i've always been of the opinion that donald trump was sort of just playing for...