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And also the idea of getting the working people back to work. as you know, he's been able to win elections, where there's 1 million more democrats, because he appealed to the blue-collar worker. so i would say the jobs issue and getting people back to work, not only just because it puts food on the table, but there's a spiritual quality we have in a job. it makes uh feel like we're contributing, we're part of the solution, and it feels good to contribute to others. so from both sides of the spiritual aspect and the economic aspect, getting the people back to work and his idea of getting rid of...

Religious liberty is important to me. and also the idea of getting the working people back to work. as you know, he's been able to win elections, where there's 1 million more democrats, because he appealed to the blue-collar worker. so i would say the jobs issue and getting people back to work, not only just because it puts food on the table, but there's a spiritual quality we have in a job. it makes uh feel like we're contributing, we're part of the solution, and it feels good to contribute to others. so from both sides of the spiritual aspect and the economic aspect, getting the people back ...

In that. you have been married for a long time, you only have four children, so i assume you did not ascribe to rick santorum's personal beliefs on contraceptives. >> well, i have been blessed by contracepti contraceptives. it's an important thing for many women. it's allowed them to advance their careers and make their own choices. that's what's special about america. people can choose. that's what's so annoying about this idea that president obama forcing people to do something that is against their religious beliefs. and that's what the issue's about, where rick santorum, as i said earlier,...

Authenticity and honesty. he'll tell you exactly what you believe. he doesn't have a bunch of consultants, hey, guys, how can i say this and phrase this so i can get the women's vote? he just tells it like it is, and women admire that in him. >> well, that's a quality -- i mean an issue, not so much a personal character quality. is there a single issue that is your most important governing issue that has brought you to the santorum campaign? >> yes. i would say his love for america -- >> again, that's, but that's just -- that's not an issue. what i mean is taxation, or in this case, contracept...

Effect in the santorum campaign today? >> um, negative. i think the -- >> cold. >> yes. it's cold. i think the clip from andrea's show is going to be everywhere. i think the problem is that it's stacked atop an entire week's worth of things that you've been obviously talking about on the show and talking about on the network, between the bill in virginia for the mandatory exam, if you want an abortion. the all-male hearing today -- >> that was the easiest thing in the world -- >> easiest thing in the world. >> that was actually staged by a women's group to drive home the point that this is unf...