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Removing him. >> i think what they are saying as it will depend on what comes out of the fbi investigation. if there is none of fbi investigation, i don't think it is a criminal investigation. that is why i was saying, there is not a trial. there is no public defender. this is about a character reference if those references don't pan out like with anyone else in united states you don't get hired or as trump says, you got fired. >> tucker: i get it but that is not what nancy pelosi is arguing. it may be that she does not understand the system. she seemed odd in that clip i will say. impeachment...

Coverage. john avalon here with me in new york. we heard moments ago, do you have the votes? do you have enough? he said i can't say for certain we do. that is significant. president bush, whom brett kavanaugh worked in the white house and was critical on that team, could he be the savior here? >> they're bringing in the relief pitcher, an establishment republican figure far less polarizing than president trump. there is a character reference here that he serveds a secretary to president bush. the question from the senators and the senate is whether that private call will be enough to override...

Think he and his allies have hoped. >> do you think he would have been better served to do this alone and not bring his wife along. >> if someone started calling you a rapist for a week, that would tend to think, i should talk about this with my wife and she would be a great character reference. i tell you what i saw in the faces of both of them tonight opinion emotion, you cannot coach emotion. kavanaugh was breaking up during his answers, she was emotional. it was right to put her up there next to him, so when he is sitting there saying, unequivocally i did not do this, she can say, this is ...

To be heard -- >> fascinating. my guests are back with me. i have to tell you, throughout the clips that i've seen, i was not watching the judge, i've been watching his wife wondering what she was thinking. how powerful is it that she's sitting there with him? >> i don't know that she adds much to it, usually when we see the spouse, the wife next to a man in a situation like this, it's because something has happened that affects the marriage. and the bwife is there to send message, this is nobody's business but ours. i think in this case, and you usually see her greatly pained. this is a case ...

>> i think you guys are now clear to go. anyway, thank you so much. character reference. a woman who is a former clerk of judge kavanaugh joins me to explain why she's lost no respect for the judge. need a change of scenery? kayak compares hundreds of travel and airline sites so you can be confident you're getting the right flight at the best price. cheers! kayak. search one and done. so shark invented duo clean.