Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130603:23:52:00
>> it doesn't work as well as it should have. >> jim baker said the ideological course puts in charming a chief of staff to hire and fire and make sure people obey the president. a complete span of control. that's how presences work. when you don't run it that way, you have to explain why. if it is so powerful, incredibly powerful. why doesn't she become chief of staff? >> she would not be good. that doesn't matchup well. >> she's not well-liked. she's not the boss of that white house. >> you said she under cut a number of chiefs of staff. >> she did, but that doesn't mean she would be better ...