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Has that come up? i mean, it's obviously an odd dynamic for outsiders. >> well, i'll let him speak for himself, but i think, you know, i think mr. conway and i both have come to this with really just the simple idea that the constitution is a bipartisan document and you have a president who, last week, it was birthright citizenship, you and i talked about that. this week, it's this. he is content to set fire to the constitution, and in a world in which, you know, there's so much cynicism, i think the constitution is the one thing that really does keep us together and there's a view that trump ...

Attorney general is. this isn't the way to run a country. >> you've written this with john conway. he's not only a prominent republican and prominent attorney, he's husband to kellyanne conway. has that come up? i mean, it's obviously an odd dynamic for outsiders. >> i'll let him speak for himself. i think mr. conway and i both have come to this with really just the simple idea that the constitution is a bipartisan document, and you have a president who, last week it was birthright citizenship. we talked about that. this week, it's this. he's content to set fire to the constitution, and a worl...

It seems pretty close-minded to refuse the same courtesy of equal existence on the college campus to groups with whom you disagree. >> martha: they wrote an editorial, they say their definition of marriage does not include same-sex couples and we believe that marriage is a conjugal unit will never level. directed towards the carrying of biological children. to us marriage is more than commitment of love between two consenting adults. they are saying to us, in our organization, and what we write about and what we talk about, this is what we believe, how does that seem as hate or intolerance? >>...