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>> john allen, question to you, was real damage done last night and/or is this just something for us, for the chattering classes to chatter about? >> it will be interesting to see. most voters aren't into the weeds of the policy and certainly don't care a whole lot about the personality pieces of this. but there are important dynamics going on here about the differences between these health care plans, and i think there are some things the voters care about in terms of, you know, which candidates are attacking, which ones might be trying to get in cheap shots, and also whether the vice preside...

He just got his facts wrong. >> we're up there to debate. and that's what i was doing. i pointed out that vice president vooind's plan would leave out 10 million people. i think that's significant. so i would point that out again. >> john allen, question to you, was real damage done last night and/or is this just something for us, for the chattering classes to chatter about? >> it will be interesting to see. most voters aren't entitled weeds of the policy and certainly don't care a whole lot about the personality pieces of this. but there are important dynamics going on here about the differen...

Wrong. >> we're up there to debate, and that's what i was doing. i pointed out that vice president biden's plan to leave out 10 million people. i think that's significant, and, you know, so i would point that out again. >> john allen, question to you. was real damage done last night and/or is this just something for us, for the chattering classes to chatter about? >> it will be interesting to see, brian. i think most voters probably aren't into the weeds of the policy, and certainly don't -- probably don't care a whole lot about the personality pieces of this. but there are important dynamics ...

Lot of republican politicians. but i think one of the things we should note is that his rating on the economy and people's sense of the economy is much higher than their estimation of him and i think the reason for that is his personal behavior. >> you think this is going to continue between now and november of 2020? this kind of assault. >> i think that is right. if we look back to 2015, as he was launching his campaign, this is the kind of rhetoric he employed through his campaign and the idea of build the wall and banning muslim and those are the chants that got the loudest applause, became...

And breaking out over her. >> i think she is probably worried and reason to be worried and she has to tell a story to donors. in some ways that is where these polls matter the most right now. not so much we in the chattering classes but people who are writing checks and enable the campaigns to get off the ground. she clearly has as much of a path to victory as anybody else who are at barely 1%. >> thank you, louis. live town hall is this evening starting at 7:00. it's right here on cnn. can you put a monetary value on the presidents of u.s. troops? the trump administration is considering doi...