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Che checks. >> they passed a bill to fund the nia. dana, they have discretion on these things. but the president seems to want to inflict the maximum amount of pain in the 17% shutdown to make a political point. what's your reaction? >> that's absolutely right. he wants to make this look and feel to a certain amount of people as absolutely painful as possible. >> he doesn't want to shut it uh down at all. >> mark, i was a lady and i was quiet while you spoke. you be a gentleman and show me the same curtesy. as i was saying before i was interrupted, sean, there is a hurt and rescue strategy her...

Che checks. >> they passed a bill to fund the nia. dana, they have discretion on these things. but the president seems to want to inflict the maximum amount of pain in the 17% shutdown to make a political point. what's your reaction? >> that's absolutely right. he wants to make this look and feel to a certain amount of people as absolutely painful as possible. >> he doesn't want to shut it uh down at all. >> mark, i was a lady and i was quiet while you spoke. you be a gentleman and show me the same curtesy. as i was saying before i was interrupted, sean, there is a hurt and rescue strategy her...