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Trends are looking at it from a dollars-and-cents point of view. we're not able to do all we need to do on education and like, you know, long-term security and all these things, because we are making choices right now, to insure that children become super-addicted and grow up in obesit obesity. >> two choices, one you tax the junk food and the white house is looking at this. what if you just shift some of those subsidies over to the fresh fruits and vegetables, which get none now. they're so much more expensible than the highly processed foods. then at least you could level the playing field f...

Is where is the responsibility? >> i agree. what we're talking about is no parent has asked to be undermined, where a marketer is trying to have a direct relationship with children. we don't want jrchg food marketers going directly to kids. if they want to market to the parents, market to the parents. >> if my kids have something they want, i shouldn't have bought those cheatoes, i'm not going to blame the cheat os company! >> you want there to be transparency. you don't want transparency? you were surprised about the anomea. why don't you know that? >> mcmcdonald's put out a statement today t...