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Not to do it? >> i don't of an exact breakdown day by day, courtney. we've been in touch with the taliban for quite some time, over the last week, and we've certainly made our concerns known. i think equally frustrating is the fact that not -- what appears to be happening is that not every taliban fighter, either got the word or decided to obey the word. and i can't speak to taliban command and control, but by and large, and for the most part, americans with their credentials are being given the passage they need through the checks points and are getting onto the field. again, security conditi...

Security, they want national security, they want a steel barrier or a wall of concrete. they don't care. i'll use any term they want. we need a barrier to stop the human traffickers and the drug trade, and to stop all the big problems that come, including gangs. they don't come through your checks points. they come through where you have hundreds of miles without walls or barriers or without strong fences. we had a great time, actually. there was no discussion about anything other than solidarity. we want national security and border security for our country. >> first of all, thank you for com...

>> and bring me up to speed, what is our obligation? when they get to a border, there's checks points where they should go. often times they by pass them. right? >> yeah, they don't want to wait at a port of entry. because the port of entry will process a limited amount of people. so you know, it's advantageous for those to illegally cross the border and be apprehended. if they're family units that have minor children, they know that those children have to be released ultimately. as i stated, right now ice is running out of detention space. so the smuggling organizations get this intelligence....

The heap of despair. >> that is appalling and unamerican. ainsley: it's terrible to see those images, of course. no one wants to see parents. and if you are a parent could you imagine. you don't wanting to see these images. what's the solution? that's why the presint is talking with these lawmakers trying to figure out if we build the wall. maybe they wouldn't come in and do it the right w come in at checks points. they can seek asylum if they live in a dangerous area. steve: president made it clear on friday if you don't like that policy, change the law. the way it is variety now. it's pretty...